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Sunday, July 22, 2012

The Dark Knight Rises ciffhanger ending explained

The Dark Knight Rises ends with a cliffhanger. No need to warn any movie fans here since they know we are all about dishing out the plot spoiler. If you haven't made your way into movie theaters to watch The Dark Knight Rises, then beware that we will discuss TDKR cliffhanger.


***Movie Spoiler*** 


The Dark Knight Rises ending is intriguing. Christopher Nolan uses his previous Memento movie experience to write a good ending. We see a twist ending, which can occur 20 minutes prior to a movie ending. Not all twist endings are like The Sixth Sense movie. There is more to The Dark Knight Rises movie than Miranda revealing her true identity and plan. 

TDKR is about closing the Batman trilogy to move into a new era. The Dark Knight Rises cliffhanger is showing the origin of Detective Blake as becoming Nightwing. He wants more in life than to work in a corrupt police system. He gives up his badge, knowing that he stands for the same moral standards as Bruce Wayne.  

In the bag that Bruce probably leaves him, Blake finds the Bat Cave. We believe Batman sacrifices his life to save Gotham, the citizens and the people he cares about most. Every person has a role in Bruce Wayne's life. He fights crimes as a crime stopper rather than a vigilante. Bruce Wayne is unlike Miranda. Bruce Wayne learns to overcome his fear of death and to deal with his anger. He contains deep anger. Miranda channels her anger as her motivation to destroy Batman and Gotham. 

However, Batman is dedicated to protecting Gotham. He wouldn't trust autopilot to guide the Bat plane outside of Gotham. His action 6 months ago with fixing the software path does not imply that Batman survives the atomic blast with ejecting. Batman's facial expression with 5 seconds remaining is enough evidence to suggest he chooses to overcome his fear of dying. He sacrifices his life to save Gotham. 

Alfred's Paris case scene is possibly dream imaginary to covey that Bruce find absolution. We can be happy after death. We don't have to survive to reach happiness. Have you watched The Woman in Black? Gladiator? The Sixth Sense? Armageddon? Hint: The protagonists are happy in the end. Bruce Wayne is happy. As Batman, he gives hope to a new beginning. In his end, comes the rise of Blake as Nightwing. 

Blake is like Bruce. Both these characters were orphans. Their parents both died. Bruce looked to Gordon as a hero just for giving him a coat after his parents got murdered. He reveals this to Gordon. Gordon has experienced many events as a member of the Gotham police force. Bruce Wayne's tragedy is probably one that stuck with him his entire career. It is likely he thinks about it often while raising his son. Gordon shows gratitude for Batman saving his son from Two-Face/Dent. 

With that said, Batman dies in the end. Alfred's dream interpretation explains happiness through a passing of a hero and a good man that overcame fear and anger to make a noble sacrifice. The Dark Knight Rises cliffhanger passes the torch to a new hero, a man that is about to rise as Nightwing. What do you think? Thanks. 


Watch The Dark Knight Rises again to decode the movie. Nolan's Inception ending is written the same way to create discussions on the movie end.


51 comments:

  1. Aside from the restaurant scene, I give you these points to argue he did not die.

    1. Gave Gordon a new Bat Signal

    2.Gave Blake the cooridinates to the cave.

    3.The mechenics tell Fox wayne fixed the auto piliot

    4. He takes the pearls, tracking device and all.

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    1. Thanks for the points and comment. Challenge 2 & 3.

      2. Bruce could have decided to give Blake coordinates after he visited the Wayne Manor. Blake told Bruce that orphans and he looked up to him as kids. He shared that Wayne Foundation stop funding the orphan program. Blake mentioned we need him (Batman)

      3. Autopilot is rope and piloting is no rope. As in most movies with sacrifice, the hero or heroes leave the final conflict in their hands (no rope) rather than take chances in compromising the outcome (rope) (i.e. Deep Impact, Armageddon, Gladiator, Outbreak, and other films). The first two movies involve nuclear as well.

      Would Batman risk autopilot on a chance the plane malfunctioned with an atomic bomb about to detonate? We are talking about an atomic bomb, not just small explosives with no little impact.

      Or would Batman accept the noble sacrifice to ensure Gotham survived. Pondering over retiring as Batman is kind of a weak argument we've heard a few times. We feel the autopilot fix is just a plot device to give Batman fans hope he survived.

      Thanks for the input. I did write about the obvious, but then analyzed the plot again on Saturday.

      The Alfred end influenced me to look further into whether Batman did in fact die. Another commenter on our film ending website said Nolan publicly admitted that Batman survived. He never provided a link to verify the source and there is no news of this.

      I don't think Nolan is going to speak about the ending while the movie is early in its box office run. The trick is to influence people to watch multiple times to find new clues. It adds to the longevity of the film.

      Thanks again for the input.

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  2. uhm, hello, I just noticed... first off, I can't remember if Alfred knew about Batman helping Selina get that clean slate thing and that if he also knew they were expressing feelings for each other towards the ending. Well, he already left Wayne by that time. Because in the Alfred Scene, there Selina was, with Bruce. If it was a dream ending, then why would Selina be sharing a table with Bruce in Alfred's head? It should've been a different woman.

    But i think Chris Nolan wanted people to have their own endings in their heads, especially that he's into flashbacks, symbolism and plot twists in his screenplays.

    Ugh, honestly I don't know... Because another thought: not just because he fixed the autopilot doesn't mean he survived it. You've got a point, too! He's dedicated to saving Gotham. Of course, he wouldn't leave it to a machine that could malfunction anytime. I mean, for Fox, it could also be just a wishful thinking like "oh, Bruce fixed the autopilot, oh, he's alive!" Maybe his face expression just meant "there's a possibility that my friend survived..." But then again, the bat signal is seen all set to be back in operation. Who did that?! WAAAAH! What if that Bat signal-scene was supposed to be the last part? Meaning, it's Blake who'll be fixing it after his Nightwing persona is realized... Well, Nolan is known for this type of narration...

    After making this comment, I feel like watching this movie again. Damn.

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    1. Thanks for commenting. You made some great points. You are right that Nolan likes to create screenplays with plot twists. His Memento movie is one major twist.

      Please watch TDKR again so we can discuss more possible theories. Thank you for contributing!

      Visit our recent article on ending theory on FilmEnding.com:

      http://www.filmending.com/2012/07/the-dark-knight-rises-ending-theory.html

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  3. Bruce DEFINITELY survives. Alfred had quit and lost contact with Brucevery early, way before Bruce had even met Selina properly, let alone started any kind of relationship (which was only made 'official' seconds before he flies away with the bomb)
    Alfred would not have imagined Selina sitting there with Bruce, he still thought she was a criminal and had no idea, therefore she is real, and so is Bruce. They just tracked Alfred to that restaurant to let him know that they were alright, safe in the knowledge that Alfr was the only person he could trust not to reveal for certain that he was still alive.

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    1. @Sam,

      Good comment. We prepared an ending theory on FilmEnding.com to challenge all major points that Bruce is physically dead but alive in memory.

      Thanks for sharing the explanations.

      http://www.filmending.com/2012/07/the-dark-knight-rises-ending-theory.html

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  4. The question to be asked is: How would he know exactly what time Alfred would be there at?
    The answer to that question: Well, he is the f****** Batman. . .
    Also, if Alfred is imagining this, why is he imagining Selina? He had absolutely no idea that Selina was anything more than a thief. Therefore, if he was going to imagine Bruce with someone, it would be either a random girl, or that girl(can't remember her name) from the first and second movie.

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    1. @Jake,

      Thanks for commenting. We don't dream the obvious. It is highly possibly he is dreaming. Alfred knows that Rachel loved Harvey Dent prior to dying. It really doesn't matter who is with Bruce.

      The center of attention is Bruce's happiness. Alfred warned Bruce to give up Batman.

      I prepared an ending theory to challenge every possible point that suggest Bruce Wayne survives.

      Thanks for commenting.

      Check out the ending theory here:

      http://www.filmending.com/2012/07/the-dark-knight-rises-ending-theory.html

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  5. I originally believed Batman died in that explosion, and all the fixed autopilot scene said was Bruce fixed it - but not that he used it. Would Batman trust an autopilot, no and in his words to Catwoman "no autopilot" means he piloted it out to Sea himself. However, the fact that the technicians are able to study the Bat and realise from its computer that the autopilot got fixed means the Bat itself was not destroyed. Therefore there is a very real possibility Batman either dumped the bomb into the Sea, or was just able to survive being protected by the Bat.

    If Alfred was imagining Bruce living a happy life he would have imagined him with Rachel. It does not matter that Rachel picked Harvey, Bruce loved Rachel and Alfred knew she was the only woman who made him happy. To imagine Bruce with a random woman might also make sense, but not with Selina. Alfred knew Selina as a thief, so would not imagine her with Bruce.

    Also, Blake was left a bag by Bruce, why would he do that if it wasn't planned. Its not like he could know his death was coming unless it was planned. If Blake is to become Nightwing he would need training, and even though Batman might be dead. Bruce could certainly train Blake to become the next hero.

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    1. I believe Blake's role was planned after he saved Gordon's life. He also visited Bruce's home to share his backstory. These are two important events to convey integrity.

      Dreams are not what they seem. You can't choose to dream unless you engage in lucid dreaming. It is highly possible Alfred could dream about Selina.

      There is more to the dream sequence than the plot reveals. Visit filmending.com to discuss the movie ending with others that also share details such as yourself.

      Thanks for commenting.

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  6. Batman was in the bat. It showed batman in a bat not necessarily in the original bat. At the end the bat is brought back to wayne entiprises and is explained bruce installs autopilot on both bats. So batman told Blake where the batcave was. Batman put the first bat on autopilot, called the second one in, grappled up to it and drove away to pick up selena and told the second bat to go back to wayne entiprises.

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    1. @Richard,

      Thanks for the comment. Please visit filmending.com to discuss the movie ending.

      Your explanation is consistent with many moviegoers. I oppose Bruce Wayne surviving because of the following reasons:

      - pit theme of hope and fate - with and without a rope
      - Batman tells Selina no autopilot
      - Blake rounds up the children to give them hope as Gordon did for Bruce
      - The Tale of Two Cities eulogy
      - Alfred sharing his fantasy

      Join the movie ending discussion on the film ending website. Thanks for commenting. Good explanation.

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  7. Cant you just admit you may be wrong?

    He survived the blast. How else can you explain that when they are going through his estate everything is accounted for but his mothers pearls? How could he have possibly had time to leave coordinates to his hideout, if your right and he does this before he dies he would have had to do that before he was imprisoned, which was well before his death. He faked his death because after Gothom learned the truth about Harvy Dent, they needed a new hero who gave all to save a city. He did that, he kept the peace.

    As for your described "dream sequence", how do you know that was a dream? We dont see Alfred retire to his bed or begin to daze off before seeing that. It just happens. In fact I would say there is far more evidence that he lived (auto pilot, pearls, coordinates, bat signal, sighting) than there are reasons to suggest that he died (a blast over the ocean).

    Finally, movie making 101 you dont kill the main character of a move franchise. Example, Stallone wanted Rocky to die in the last Rocky movie but the studio said no because you never know where the franchise could go. Also, Batman is the Justice League and the Justice League movie is coming out in 2015ish. Since Nolan is also attached to next years Superman I am sure he will be attached to this movie to some degree. So if there is to be a new Justice League movie how could Batman die? Hes alive.

    http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Justice-League-Movie-Could-Include-Lobo-32825.html

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    1. I just don't see Bruce Wayne surviving. We're not watching the same Batman movies as in the 90's. The clues are there to show that Bruce died.

      I'm not convinced he survived the atomic blast. Bruce could have left the bag and coordinates after learning of Blake's integrity in the Wayne Manor (talking about his childhood and saving Gordon in the sewer. If we think back, we don't get all the exposition to explain the entire movie.

      The plot is implied rather than explained. I don't believe The Justice League movie explains Bruce Wayne surviving. Anybody can become Batman. It doesn't have to be Bruce Wayne.

      We don't have to see Alfred sleeping at night like Rose in the Titanic ending. That would be too obvious. Nolan is not a simple guy. He doesn't give the moviegoer all the answers. It is up to us to fill in the voids.

      There is more than just a blast over the ocean. Batman told Selina he has no auto pilot. We hear Gordon read a eulogy to quote The Tale of Two Cities. Blake rescues the children, representing their coat - in reference to Gordon showing a young Bruce the world hasn't ended. Blake refused to give up hope. He wanted to keep the children safe.

      The cafe scene is brightly lit. It moves slow. There is little emotion. It is the only cafe, one that Alfred discusses as a fantasy to Bruce at the end of Act 1.

      Batman is a different character than Rocky. Rocky is the name of the boxer. We're not comparing the first Rocky movie to the third Nolan Batman movie. No comparison. I can see if we're discussing batman Begins with Rocky. Of course, we wouldn't kill the protagonist.

      You make some good points. Visit my film ending website to read other viewpoints. We've been discussing The Dark Knight Rises since the opening weekend. Thanks for commenting.

      FilmEnding.com

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  8. It wasn't a dream. Alfred was shocked to see Bruce and is happy because he knows that Bruce took Alfred's advice to let go batman. Batman is a symbol, not a person. Bruce retires from being batman and chooses to pass on his legacy to robin.

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